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hey guys, just want to ask, how do you deal with brawler type fighters when sparring? you know, those that just chiong at u with arms swinging...coz i sparred with two of these types of fighters, so i basically waited for them to swing first den go go in with jab or a cross, but get tied up immediately after dat coz dey just keep swinging and locking up arms in the process. basically wat i describe is like two beginners sparring for the first time haha.....sure you guys have seen before.

yah so just wondering wat shld i do? keep circling and push kick when they come too close? or sidestep? oh yah and both of us had protective gear on so the other guy wldnt stop advancing even if hit. Thanx!!

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Fri, 07/11/2008 - 23:45
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kick his nuts.hahaha

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push kick with yr front leg , step in and give him a kick with yr back leg.

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Roy wrote:
push kick with yr front leg , step in and give him a kick with yr back leg.
yep, it works just perfect!

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if you cant get out, then knee him

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usually for me, i give a low push kick so his hands cant really touch me unless hes like 190.
It breaks his momentum and right after i do the charging in.
Just keep breaking their momentum, works like a charm, at least for me.

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and while he swings around uselessly punch him in the face really hard Laughing out loud

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Sat, 08/11/2008 - 15:22
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thanks for all the advice!

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Sun, 09/11/2008 - 00:23
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and i agree with pietrek to knee too.
Lock and knee.
cause usually when they come charging in, ull catch them by surprise when u go in as well.
a 50-50 chance, but if u pull it off right, u just might win the fight with that one knee Smiling

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avk wrote:
and i agree with pietrek to knee too.
Lock and knee.
cause usually when they come charging in, ull catch them by surprise when u go in as well.
a 50-50 chance, but if u pull it off right, u just might win the fight with that one knee Smiling

Thanks. And yeah.

It's just like 2 person clashing each other, but one is swinging like an orang utan, and another is doing a knee as powerful as a car crash. When the first knee hits him, he should get distracted, and this is when you bring in the elbows and hooks. If he still doesn't stop swinging like an orang utan, then bringing him to the zoo would be a better option(just kidding)..

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Flying elbow! Green

Seriously. It's a good way to say "easy, dude!". I won't recommend this without using protective equipment tho.

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Wed, 27/05/2009 - 02:59
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hahaa i always had and still have probs with such brawlers. since im a counter-fighter whu relies mostly on speed i can go crashing in, since i lack the power. wat i prefer to do is play with speed n stamina. i strongly beleive a good boxer wd come out victorious in such an instance. sticking him wid continuous jabs, with occasional 2's, wd certainly break his game and make him stay away from you. throwing a punch/jab is always faster than executing a kick. so punches are the way for me.

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Pietrek wrote:
avk wrote:
and i agree with pietrek to knee too.
Lock and knee.
cause usually when they come charging in, ull catch them by surprise when u go in as well.
a 50-50 chance, but if u pull it off right, u just might win the fight with that one knee Smiling

Thanks. And yeah.

It's just like 2 person clashing each other, but one is swinging like an orang utan, and another is doing a knee as powerful as a car crash. When the first knee hits him, he should get distracted, and this is when you bring in the elbows and hooks. If he still doesn't stop swinging like an orang utan, then bringing him to the zoo would be a better option(just kidding)..

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i try that b4, when the guy come punching near to me. i give him a push kick and jab back than a knee but my knee, dun know aim wrong place your wat maybe i just tat my knee not powerful, so when i knee him he dun seem to be hurt. so i just keep making him fall down.

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garlic85 wrote:
hey guys, just want to ask, how do you deal with brawler type fighters when sparring? you know, those that just chiong at u with arms swinging...coz i sparred with two of these types of fighters, so i basically waited for them to swing first den go go in with jab or a cross, but get tied up immediately after dat coz dey just keep swinging and locking up arms in the process. basically wat i describe is like two beginners sparring for the first time haha.....sure you guys have seen before.

yah so just wondering wat shld i do? keep circling and push kick when they come too close? or sidestep? oh yah and both of us had protective gear on so the other guy wldnt stop advancing even if hit. Thanx!!

Heheh I remember one time at an amateur Sanshou friendly I was being charged at by a guy taller then me. I really did contemplate side stepping and countering, but for God knows what reason, I threw out a front kick to his face (I think it was cos of the pressure of havin a big fella charging at me violently. Think angry gorilla.)

Anyways, I was aiming for his chin. I missed and hit just between his nose and his forehead. He got knocked back a few feet before he lost balance and fell. The outcome was so unexpected, people from his own gym were clapping lol.

Well the gorilla got angrier, but he didn't charge at me anymore lol.

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Fri, 04/09/2009 - 01:38
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Oh and I forgot to add, when fighting brawlers or inexperienced fighters, just use plenty of circular footwork with simple techniques. Inexperienced fighters tend to move only linearly and can be easily controlled. Just wait for them to over-commit, pay attention to openings and hit where it hurts. It's not very difficult with inexperienced fighters because they tend to have more bad habits like weak guards, weak stance/balance.

Cause some pain when they charge, and they will charge less or stop charging.
(And I'm not talking about salesmen)

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well simple... I just RUN! no point fighting... I don't want to get hurt in the process or just take a chair and whack him in the face. I think he wouldn't come at me afterward. If he continues, just side step and hook, hook, uppercut combo. If he fell on the ground, then it is ground and pound time. If possible, arm bar or choke him to end it.

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haha thanks for all your wonderful comments guys, will try and put them to good use

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What i do is keep moving around them while kicking them in the thigh or teep the leg then roundhouse to the ribs. Of course i do like the occasional john wayne parr style superkick XD

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salman22 wrote:

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lol why am I wasting my time?!?! he's from pakistan, getting ready to spam.
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Sorry for bumping this old thread but will elbowing the brawler deal serious damage? Eh?

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LATTE wrote:
Sorry for bumping this old thread but will elbowing the brawler deal serious damage? Eh?

If you do it right, it will of course but if you do it clumisily and you miss.....Lol....be prepared to run for your dear life.....

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One thing that i am afraid of is wouldn't a hard impact by the elbow cause ear or severe head injury?

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Mystiq wrote:
LATTE wrote:
Sorry for bumping this old thread but will elbowing the brawler deal serious damage? Eh?

If you do it right, it will of course but if you do it clumisily and you miss.....Lol....be prepared to run for your dear life.....

Hey, wait a minute, I didnt read the start of this thread and I thought it is was referring to street brawlers. NO, pls do not use any form of elbow on anyone during light sparring. The recommendations right at the start of the thread is good alr.

Well, if you are talking about street brawlers and you are in a defencless position, its a different story.....

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Ok thank you!
Oh, is it me or most nak muays don't move as much as boxers. Eek

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LATTE wrote:

Ok thank you!

Oh, is it me or most nak muays don't move as much as boxers. Eek

Boxing and Muaythai are 2 totally different ball games. Boxing requires speed and accuracy with hands and their stances and leg movements are different to that of Muaythai. In Muaythai, the 8 limbs are used and to be effective - balance, momentum, speed and accuracy are needed all at one go. You cannot compare both arts as boxing is specialised in its own way (only hands) and muaythai is specialised in using all the 8 limbs. And so yes, if you look at it in comparison, you see boxers weaving and jumping about in the ring fast paced whereas you dont see that with muaythai fighters as the game strategy and approach is totally different.

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And with that, i hope i can adapt to muay thai easily.

Hmm, you know i have this bully in class who is a total brawler who tends to throw punches at will and randomly.
He learned muay thai for just a month or so and thinks he is at the top of the world. Roll eyes Maybe when he wants to pick a fight, i can do a stop kick and then proceed in to give him a few jabs before moving out?
I noticed that he isn't mobile enough so perhaps i can use my footwork to control him but too much of footwork might tire myself out too.. Think

My training buddy from my gym told me that its good to kick low so that your opponent will probably have a harder chance to block against that kick?

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Not going to comment about fighting outside of training/the ring.

Low kicks don't really work that well against brawlers who like to charge IMO. While you're kicking the leg, they can get in and give you a right on the chin or go hunt for your head, your jaw is turned when kicking, high chance of KO I think. And one kick isn't going to stop anyone. Unfortunately I don't get to meet many brawler types in sparring, it will surely be helpful to test out these theories.

What I think will work is a well-timed stiff jab straight into his face, and good head movement/defensive skills. Depending on what he throws, if he thows a haymaker you can see from a mile away, intercept with a step forward, and stiff jab and cross. He throws a wild right hook, duck and counter with a short fast left hook, right cross. He throws straights, slip to the outisde and counter with a stiff jab or cross (same hand as him), then step and pivot to his side.

There's just so many times you can teep him. My thinking is that pain is the only thing that's going to stop him coming. If he comes in and gets pain each time, he's going to stop wanting to. I see Yodsanklai use the middle kick into the ribs to stop chargers too, but I think his trick is to kick so hard that (1) it hurts like hell and (2) he upsets their balance.

I think cutting angles and pivoting is going to be very important, and that's where your boxing training comes in very useful. However, all of the above requires quite a high level of skill (especially slipping/ducking/countering) and well practiced reflexes that take time to develop.

Some simpler tricks to try:
1) As he comes in, inner leg kick his front foot ankle/shin to make him lose balance, follow with right cross
2) As he swings, lean back out of range, then step in, right cross while slipping your head slightly to the left, pivot 90 degrees to your left.
3) Duck, and clinch. MMA style takedown to mount, then pound...haha

Would love to hear other people's approach to brawlers too. Knees just don't work that well for me.

And pls don't fight outside of the ring and in MT class ok? Wave

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Thank you!
However, when kicking with a lot of force, wouldn't one lose balance easily? Well, as the saying goes; 'practice makes perfect'

Been practicing on ducking/ weaving and countering with an uppercut or maybe a body jab then and upper cut.

Your inner kick refers to the back leg of mine?

I like option 3, doing a full mount and then start pounding. Think
But i am only allowed to do this in a MMA match or a street fight but not Boxing nor Muay Thai Roll eyes HAHA~

Yeah, i don't ENCOURAGE nor WANT to fight outside the ring or class unless the peace talk gets no where and the other party picks on a fight. Eh?

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