why the need to gain weight?

Because the last 2 times i trained in Thailand i lost a LOT of weight !
Last year i lost more then 10 kg / 22 lb of weight and it really messed me up .

i believe the protein is gd enough for growing muscle and healing.....

do take in glucosamine for joint repair..i believe its a gd supplement

wow... thats tough man...

wow.u sound more like a robot.haha

true. Haha.

How u manage to quit smoking.? What are the efforts taken.? Now is my turn to ask u question. Haha. I cant seem to stop puffing the poison man.! Hmph.! money killing shit. Haha.

actually, when i last trained in thailand, i didnt eat before i train....maybe juz some fruits and juice for the carbos, but whens training is done, I eat like a monster ( yummy thai food )....i think it is easy to put on weight though....surprise u lose 10kg man..

you have to eat proper, especially if you want to maintain or gain weight. training in thailand you lose close to 2000 calories per day, or maybe even more. you definitely need more than 2000 cals to maintain the weight minimum. dont forget your body needs a certain amount of cals (outside of the 2000cals lost during training) to function also. i dont know your weight, height etc so i cant really tell you how much cals you have to consume to maintain or gain weight.

for supplements, protein supplements are your best bet if you want to gain muscle mass and recovery. also, you could try creatine, but use with caution because it may cause unneccessary weight gain.

will it be possible to gain weight without lifting? sure. you can gain fat weight without lifting, just eat. i think what you mean here is muscle mass and then no, its not possible to gain weight without lifiting OR bodyweight exercises that target maximal strength.

hope ive helped.

@ hailme : in like 2 weeks i went from smoking almost 1 pack a day to maybe 2 cigarettes and then i quitted completely . And all that without pills or stuff like that .
I forced myself to stop smoking thinking about the fact that i wont get nowhere with the training unless i stopped my filthy habit .

@ doggy77 : i think if i didn't eat before training that my training would be alot less intensive and really not good at all . And i would lose ALOT moreweight then the 10 kg / 22 lb
i lost last time ! Didn't you feel miserable towards the end of the training ? I know i would man .

@ loathed : some good advice there man . I'm 1, 80 m / 5 ft 10 or 11 " ( i'm from europe so i don't know exactly ) and weigh around 73 kg / 160 lb .
I don't know my BF % but if i had to guess i think it's around 15 % , not much fat at all . And my metabolism is insane , i can pretty much eat what i want , as much as i want .

So, thats mean to say, u still have the urge to smoke but u put that thought aside.? Thanks for the sharing.

did u go there alone to train? Wouldn't u feel lonely or sth? cos i'm thinking of gg to train in thailand too..but i can't seem to find anyone who is interested..and also..i dunno if it's safe for a female to go by herslf..

for me, think it is advisable to eat 3 hours before you train, lets say if training starts at 7am, you need to eat at 4am!!
thats why i skip breakfast before i train, only fruits n juice....yeah u are right, feel really hungry towards the 9am hour...

It's my 6th time alone to Thailand and it's gonna be my 3th time alone training there . But this year i have 2 friends of mine who are going to join me at the beginning of
next year for a couple of months so that's gonna be awesome ! Sometimes it can get lonely but that's when you stay like 3 or 4 months .
Trust me , there are so many cool things to see and do in Thailand that you won't even have time to feel lonely !
And you make friends with people real quickly so there's actually no excuse for feeling lonely . Don't worry being a female travelling alone , i've met a couple of girls already who were
by themselves and they had no problems whatsoever . Of course it's the same wherever you go in the world , don't do things you wouldn't do at home either .
My advice : get on that plane and prepare yourself for an experience of a lifetime !

@ doggy77 : getting up at 4 am ? I'm planning on working my ass off but this would be pushing it i think !
Hey where have you trained already ?

dont worry about the safety, sometimes thailand is safer than say malaysia. of course you cannot compare to singapore...but dont worry about the safety.

also, where are you planning to go? which part of thailand? obviously if you go to the more touristy, packed areas...then safety will not be so much and issue, vice versa. dont worry about the lonliness also, you make friends there.

i was looking at phuket..the rawai training camp..but i'm kina afraid that it's rather touristy, which i dun really wan..cos i would like to have real training..no matter how tough..i'll try as long as my body can take it..

Don't go to Rawai , there are much better camps in Phuket . If i were you i'd take a look at these 3 :

Tiger Muay Thai :
Phuket Muay Thai :
Sinbi Muay Thai :

When are you going and for how long ?

well, every camp in phuket and bangkok is "touristy" in a sense. real training always comes from you alone, you get what you put in. if you want to train hard, you have to show them and let them know. many camps will always be happy to push you that extra step. doesnt matter if they have tourists or not.

any idea why not rawai? i heard theyre one of the most, if not the most tourist-liked places in phuket...also ive heard they overcrowd the place.

I might be wrong but i don't think so . If you do a little research on the camps in Phuket then the names that pop up the most are Tiger and Sinbi . Of course that doesn't mean Rawai is bad at all but why travel to the other side of the world to train in a mediocre camp when you can train in a top class camp ?
Just take a look at the achievements of the trainers at Tiger Muay Thai :
That's what did it for me , knowing i'm going to be trained by real champions ! One trainer that really stands out is Noppadet Chengsimiw : he stands 1-1 with Naruepol and 2-0 with Yodsaenklai !!! Ok , i don't know exactly when they fought but it's impressive nonetheless .

hmm..sry..a stupid qn..do they provide maid service at tiger and phuket muay thai?

hmm..actually i havent decided on the date yet..i'm currently working..so..not enough leave..i'll probably try for 2weeks to a mth 1st..and if i like it..i'll probably stay longer the next time..maybe till my cash runs out..wahahaha..

Absolutely . At Tiger it's twice a week and at Phuket Muay Thai it's daily , altough when i stayed there it was more like 3 or 4 times a week . Laundry service is also available at the camps .
Or you can drop your laundry off at the many little shops who will do it for you very cheaply .

yea, thats why im also heading to TMT again when are you going?

i dont know about phuket muay thai, but for tiger muay thai, they have maid service like twice per week. its sort of a random thing.

In going next months for 7 - 8 months . Maybe we'll be training togheter !!
And you ? How long last time and when are you going back ?

yo Bodhisattva, i trained at fairtex bangplee...u going to tiger mT?

im going jan-feb 2009. i actually wanted to stay longer, but the hassle of applying for a long-term visa and other problems made me decide against it, so ill be there 30 days this coming january.

I'm going to TMT but i'm also going to check out Sinbi . At first i decided to only train at Tiger , but Sinbi also kept popping up everywhere i looked around on the forums .
So i'm going to check them both out and then stay with the one i like best .
How was Bangplee man ? I really wanted to go there first but it's too much money to stay there for 7 months . Damn , if i was rich i would move to Thailand and train every single day with Yodsaenklai !!! Did you get to train with him ?

That's cool man , we will probably meet each other there then . How long did you stay last time ?

hmmm-hmmm.... I just came back from a week long training in Phuket, at Patong Boxing gym. It was interesting and certainly eye-opener.
Sinbi camp is huge indeed, but far from any accommodation you can find on the net, maybe they can recommend something if you write them before you leave. Any camp in Phuket is very touristy, Rawai makes no difference.
At Patong I had the privilege to train with this guy, "Dan" - thai fighter, 27yo, he is fast as lightning and he pushed me to the far end of my limits
As the other guy said, you're safe if you don't do the things you won't do at home. Trainers are friendly, the other gym goers are too, but make sure you stick to a trainer and don't get you ego in the way, like accepting to spar with another tourist there, it's absolutely no point. Remember why you went there, to train, not to put up with some crap, and you'll be fine.

bangplee rooms got no tv or internet ...nearly bored the shit out of me when theres no training... but training was good, trainers are all very nice and humble, yo i think i saw yosdanklai's brother there, looks alot like him...think yod trains in pattaya if i am not wrong..
i heard the rate at TMT is really good ya? think it is generally quite expensive to train in bangkok anyway..

Talking about training on Phuket, Thailand... I'm really disappointed in the training at Tiger Muay Thai. Sure, there are some good trainers, but overall I guess they are somehow unmotivated because they get ripped off from the management like the guests. But there's another gym which opened just recently. It's called Dragon Muay Thai and is on the same road as Tiger Muay Thai. Much better atmosphere.

http://www.kungandterrysthailandtours.com/dmt_trainers.html
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I've been to Thailand twice so far. And going alone is no problem, because you'll meet other people. It might be an advantage overall, because you make new friends.

Wolfie, no worries about gg to thailand to train alone. I did that a couple of times on my own, the gym that I was gg to made preparations, they sent a representative to pick me up at the airport and send me there and likewise when you are returning, they will send you back to the airport. From experience, everyone is friendly with ladies and leave them alone. The gym I went to offers laundry service, so I send my laundry daily to them, reasonble rates too.

Sorry, Bro Boddhisattva to interupt the thread.

If i can ever go training in Phuket, there is only one place for me there> Kiat Thanachot gym. It's north of the island, away from the messy tourist areas and attractions. Abt 5 min from the airport. Everything is way cheaper than Patong area. Training was around 2000bht/week and you get really intensive and personal training. When i was there with Wang Yu and Kenji we were the only foreigners training there! Their thai-fighters are sent regularly to Bangkok for fights, both in Raja and Lumpini stadiums.

The trainers are great, they will really see your style and teach you individual techniques witch suit your style and bodytype. When you go there you will instantly be part of the Family, the people there will really take care of you! Maybe you have seen Pat (Pipat Kritep) before, he won the Singapore Muay Thai explosion 1 eight man tournament back in 2007, he was also fighting a couple undercards in the Contender, also trained with us there for a few weeks. He was Yodsanklai's cornerman in the finals. Anyway, he is the main trainer there.

I can say i learned more in few days than in 6 months in Singapore, both the physical as the mental sides of Muay Thai. There is no such thing there as overcharging the farang and just making him tired so he thinks he's done a really good workout..

All who have a chance, you should go and try it out!

Hi there , is your name by chance Ivan ? If not , nevermind

Dragon Muay Thai is a very small gym and like Tiger a 30 sec walk for me .

The head trainer Yod used to be one of the head trainers at Tiger but there were some problems and he left there .

He has an impressive fight record of more then 350 fights

I know his cousin by chance and she told me that if i love Muay Thai that much ( wich i really do ) that i definitely should go and just take

a look at the training sessions and that i will see for myself how good he really is .

Haven't had the chance to do so , but very soon i will get some privates with him and get back to you all .

@ Antti :

Hi there , could you give me some more precise directions on where to find Kiat Thanachot gym ?

Thanks

you take the main road from airport towards Phuket Town, turn right to Nai Yang beach, it's 100 meters from the junction

Lots of questions..

Regarding what to eat before training, you can not train on an empty stomach. Personally I eat yoghurt and drink orange juice, or just some fruit, then eat a substancial meal after training. One of the Lumpinee champions who trains here always eats two bananas before his morning training.

Regarding suppliments/weight training, you don't need to lift weight. I asked my thai trainer about this recently as a lot of champions train at this gym and don't lift weights. His answer was "Thai fighter no need bigger arm or bigger neck becuase Thai fighter need stronge and tight muscle to be quick move fast."

If you want to get stronger, then I would suggest a combination of pull-ups, sit-ups and push ups, but there is really no need to weight train.

Some of the people here take protein suppliments, but only to compensate for the lack of meat in their diet. I've recently started taking one myself to try and improve my recovery time and I'll post the results on my blog (below).

I hope that helps.